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Sarah Weller ([personal profile] blackbirdsing) wrote in [community profile] entranceway2017-06-21 10:39 am

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[ When Sarah comes into view, she's sitting with her elbows on a table, fingers steepled, and she actually looks Very Seriousβ„’ while contemplating how best to phrase her question. The conversation has come up privately, and she needs to have a full understanding of one of the parts of Wonderland she's never bothered with - the Vendors. ]

Hey. I know everyone's kind of consumed with what the dormouse had to say or...didn't say. But I really want to see where everyone falls regarding opinions on the Vendors.

Since we can't pick the memory they want, that means somehow they can rifle through our minds to pick the thing they want to take. And it'd probably have to be something meaningful or impactful. If I ever, for whatever reason, had no option but to use the Vendors, I could lose something like the birth of my son. I'd have no choice or say in the matter.

[ Her reason for using the Vendors would have to be extraordinary. Something involving Kurt or Ray and dire circumstances. ]

Anyway, my actual question is...how do we know, if the Vendors can access our minds and memories, that they or someone or something else doesn't do that all the time, on a constant basis? If Wonderland does actually use our memories to fuel the things that happen here, does that mean our brains are constantly being...I don't know. Monitored???

I'd really like some opinions on this.

[ Sarah isn't paranoid at all usually, and she'd say this is more concerned than paranoid, but it feels like such a violation of privacy that she can't help asking the community at large. ]
eatsyourscience: (colors all fade to gray)

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[personal profile] eatsyourscience 2017-06-22 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
[A couple things here...]

The vendors don't only take memories. If you had to go to them, you could trade something else.

[With that out of the way, onto the more serious matter.]

I think you're right--I think Wonderland could access our memories at any time if it had the power to do so.
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[personal profile] eatsyourscience 2017-06-23 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I doubt anyone knows. But I think it just depends on what you're trying to trade for. The trade has to be comparable, I mean.

[He cants his head to one side, considering the topic.]

I think...Wonderland can't do everything we think it can do.
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[personal profile] eatsyourscience 2017-06-24 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
I've never run into a problem like that with the vendors, but I can't say it's not possible.

[Other than the fact that they don't seem to have real faces, Souji's never thought there was anything particularly sinister about the vendors. Then again, after so long, he's been desensitized to a lot of things in Wonderland.]

I think if Wonderland could take memories any time, it would be doing it more often. Events happen pretty regularly, but not constantly, and Wonderland probably expends a lot of energy on each event, considering it has to make us or everything around us change.

[He's had a long time to think about this, okay.]
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[personal profile] eatsyourscience 2017-06-25 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That's kind of how I feel about it. That it's not really in control of this stuff.

[He glances to the side, thinking. After a second, he adds:]

The Core seems to work automatically. Just getting near it, you lose a memory.
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[personal profile] eatsyourscience 2017-06-27 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen it, and I know I lost something when I did. I don't know what I lost, though.

[But wait there's the second part of what she said.]

You're right, it's on the other side. I'm not sure if it stays in the same place, though. It wouldn't surprise me if it moved around.
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[personal profile] eatsyourscience 2017-06-28 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
[He doesn't get the reference, but he can tell they're on the same page.]

It's possible. It makes you wonder how the Mirrors live near it.
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[personal profile] eatsyourscience 2017-07-01 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
That would mean their memories have no substance.

[He hadn't thought of it that way before, but it makes sense, certainly.]

Before I came here, I'd have said no memories have substance, but events kind of prove otherwise.
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[personal profile] eatsyourscience 2017-07-04 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
[He nods slowly. A year before his arrival, he wouldn't have agreed with her. Now he knows better.]

But I wonder why memories specifically. It could steal emotions. It could steal our will power. It could just kill us and steal our lives.
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[personal profile] eatsyourscience 2017-07-05 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
You really think so?

[He has his doubts. After so long, the idea that there's some mastermind seems pretty distant.]
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[personal profile] eatsyourscience 2017-07-07 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what I think it is.

[Buuuut....]

That doesn't mean I'm right, though. There's too much we don't know to be sure.
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[personal profile] eatsyourscience 2017-07-08 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Possible answers seem to turn into more questions, too. I think it's good that we keep asking them, but you're right. And it gets frustrating.

[Complacency is easier, really.]
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[personal profile] eatsyourscience 2017-07-10 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly, I think the latter is more likely.
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[personal profile] eatsyourscience 2017-07-12 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, anytime. Take care.