http://vitaelamorte.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] vitaelamorte.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] entranceway2012-01-04 09:12 pm

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Hey guys! Now that I’ve survived the 35 hour travel day from hell (after kicking a copious amount of glorious ass at Worlds), all the mods are together again. Which means party time it’s time to get down to business.

SHOULD ENTRANCEWAY MOVE TO DREAMWIDTH?


This will be a discussion post with anonymous enabled (if you give us bullshit,* we’re at liberty to delete it), because we honestly want your opinions on the matter. However, before choices are made, please keep in mind a few very important things:


1) What is best for Entranceway? What actions do you think will have the least negative impact on the game as a whole?
2) What is best for you? Where will you feel most comfortable?
3) Don’t let emotions completely dictate your decisions.


I would like to further emphasize that last one. LJ’s been a completely bag of dicks recently, but we’re making long term decisions here. With long term decisions come long term impacts. Do you believe LJ will honestly continue pulling this bullshit in the future? The knee-jerk reaction for most of us is “YES! THOSE BASTARDS!” but try to develop your thoughts beyond that initial rush of feeling—try to articulate them. Furthermore, linked with the first item in the list above, keep in mind how you think this will impact Eway’s playerbase. Because, whatever you decide and whatever options you pull for, you’re making that decision for everyone, not just yourself. This includes people who may not be as active as you, or perhaps have never interacted with you on an OOC or IC level.

If you're not really sure how you feel about Dreamwidth versus Livejournal, here is a post comparing the two services specifically for RP purposes that might come in handy. And for those primarily concerned about whether they would need an invite code or not, we can obtain a promotional code for the purposes of moving over to Dreamwidth. However, just like we don't want to sway you towards staying on LJ, we don't want to sway you towards moving either. This is up to you guys, because without you, there is no Entranceway! We don't want to make a decision that our players aren't comfortable with, because then the game will die, and that's the last thing we want.

Also, THIS IS NOT A BINARY CHOICE. There are plenty of options to mitigate the harms of LJ’s new changes, either by staying or moving. Through about a five minute brainstorm session, we’ve come up with five:


1) We continue as we have, waiting for LJ to format an S2 style similar to the old LJ. Everyone in the game either makes their journals that customized layout or their own, like we have now.
2) We change Entranceway’s set up to be a community based game. Which means there’s a main community that everyone posts in, as opposed to journal posting and using your friend’s page. We then make the customized setting for this community a layout similar to the old LJ, or we use the S2 format LJ has told us they’ll make.
3) We move to Dreamwidth and become a community-based game there - it would be cleaner organization-wise for mirror events and things like that, DW's friending system is a little different, and an abrupt change in location might be a good opportunity for reformatting anyway.
4) We move to Dreamwidth and remain journal-based. So we basically remain exactly like we are now, but over at DW instead.
5) You tell us. There will be a section in the comments addressing options and potential ideas you guys might have.

A lot of what I’m saying here may seem like an attempt to deter a move, or perhaps influence your decision making process. However, that’s simply not the case. We merely want you guys to fully understand the control you have and the impact of your decisions. Your words decide the long term fate of this game. You guys got the power. Now use it.

EDIT: Because there were some concerns about this specifically, and because Koji is a loser who can't keep secrets, if we do decide to move to Dreamwidth, we will be running a paid account drive to help people who can't afford to buy paid accounts all over again. Again, this doesn't automatically mean we're going to move, but since the concern was raised, we're bringing it up now.

*Bullshit is defined as insulting material with little substantive value. It’s like pornography—we’ll know it when we see it.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-07 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'hm really lazy and would just rather stick with LJ. My opinion is mostly invalid, I suppose, since I don't use many of the features and stuff for things, and I don't have a paid account. So that's my 2 cents.

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[identity profile] akapeanut.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
For me, I'm thinking of the cost of switching to dreamwidth. I think in the long term it'll be better, but for at least until my financial aid comes I probably shouldn't be buying paid time for icon space, and all my paid time on lj is essentially going to go to waste. While I personally don't mind this too much, I could see why it might upset people.

So if money is a big issue for a lot of people, I say switching to a community based way of doing things would be just fine. For one, there's no chance of losing all my posts in somebody's journal if they decide to purge it (no offense but I trust the mods more than the average player, though you guys have been way better than some of the other players I've run into at other games DX) so I do prefer community based-- aaaand so do a lot of potential appers. Some people in ATP flatout refuse to do journal-based games. Just a thought.

So yeah, I would move if need be but I think money-wise it might make sense to wait a little bit for some of us orrrr just switch to community-based.

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[identity profile] epiccombo.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
I really don't mind either way. One of my games has already switched to DW, and I've already imported my journals over, in the event that eway moves too. Whatever is decided, I'll go along with it.

[identity profile] ironlass.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
I've read the whole article about roleplaying on LJ vs. roleplaying on DW before, and after rereading it again now, it seems really nice ( Specifically: generally cheaper for paid accounts, uploading multiple icons at once, longer posts, etc). You know, just very easy. Although something that could be a little annoying is how on DW there aren't notifications on your site inbox for comments made outside your journal (personally I use my email for notifications so that doesn't bother me at all, but other people might find this a little irksome!! Dang. But that is something for people to look at before they decide.)

Ummm I don't really know what to say. I'm perfectly content with being here or at DW (although I'm leaning toward DW just because I am a cheapskate and like that I can have 100 icons for less whoops.)

But if we stay here I really like option 2!! Actually I like the idea of a community based game regardless of where we end up. It seems a lot more organized because we'll have everything in one place. And maybe if we do that we can have some sort of voice mail thing like other community games have? You know, the thing where characters leave each other small messages like YO MEET ME AT THE DINING ROOM AT 6 PM OK

yeah

[identity profile] exiled-torch.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
wow honestly that is really irksome. i didn't know it only gives notifs for your journal. :(

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[identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Either place is good with me; I just don't want this place to die. And let's face it, my only reason reason for not wanting to move is the less icons issue since I have 246 here and sob sob I want them all. B(

/greedy as hell

Uh, anyway. I also.. am actually really used to the journal based aspect now too, so suddenly talking about it being community based made me panic a little. >.> I don't know whhhhy.

edit: I also worry about the ongoing threads now. I mean, I know like, NO ONE is posting recently, but the older-but-still-going threads.. I don't want them to just die. D:
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[identity profile] eatsyourscience.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
I realize money sucks all the time, but with a premium account at DW, you can get 250 icons.

AND you can import all the threads in your own journals to accounts at DW, and if we move, we should be able to import entries and comment threads from the mirror and log comms as well.

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[identity profile] masukukunai.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, with the way LJ is going (IE trying to be more like facebook), I believe that pretty soon it will be very, very hard to roleplay here anymore, if not impossible. I don't want to wait around until that happens. And I'm honestly sick of giving my money to people who who openly make fun of me in different languages and call me as insignificant as a mouse. I know people have paid time that isn't up yet (heck, so do I, even though I only pay for anything in 2 month spurts), but I just... things aren't going to get better. In my entire stay at Livejournal, they have never gotten better. They have only gotten worse. And again, I don't want to be waiting around until that happens.

I was a mod once and I know the apprehensions you guys probably have about moving. We probably will lose players, it's inevitable. But those who don't want to go through the rigamarole of moving probably don't want to play much / aren't very active to begin with. Of course, this is a broad swipe but a logical one. And if we stay, we're going to lose players too-- we've already seen that some people have stopped playing here due to LJ's new format. If we're going to lose either way I'd rather go to the place that cares about my patronage.

I don't like community based games just because... I've always played journal based games and I'm used to that. But if it means getting more players because more players like community based, I'm willing to change. I'm even more willing to change if that change is at DW. I will stay if we stay here, but with great reluctance, because I am 99% sure that roleplaying at LJ is just going to become harder and harder as time goes on.

/2 cents

[identity profile] exiled-torch.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
LET'S JUMP DA SHIP IMO.

Multiple people in this game have shown a lack of interest in going on if entranceway sticks to livejournal. Eway will probably lose active players.

It's also kind of hard for people, including myself, to get motivated to RP here because of the runarounds we have to do to try and get it back to the way it was. idk if that makes sense but yeah. I'm lazy!!

I'm going to have to vote for 4 thought, because I'm very used to journal based games. I don't have THAT much of a preference, but I've only played in one community based rp in like my 5+ yrs of lj rp. I mean it was okay to use that format and everything, but I'm used to journals.

[identity profile] 40410.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm putting in a definite vote for moving to Dreamwidth. I just paid for another year of this account's icons before all this rubbish went down, but that's honestly not a compelling enough thing to keep me here, not when a bunch of reasons are making me want to move:

Comment titles. Yeah, they're still available on s2 custom comment pages, but I've read that that won't be true for much longer because of further changes the staff have planned (and we've seen how willing they are to give up on planned changes). I like comment titles. Comment titles are fun and versatile.

Future changes on LJ. You guys already linked in your last post about this to the fairly skank-ass new designs (http://manonon.livejournal.com/6816.html) we're going to be seeing (and in the case of some features, like the scrapbook's look, already are seeing). And then there is stuff like this (http://livejournal.design.ru/main-page/) and I just I am sad okay. I am sad and getting the impression that LJ is heading towards being Russian Facebook, which is not an inherently bad idea but would make a very poor roleplaying platform.

Livejournal's downtime and glitches and stuff, one of the most recent of which was changing paid users' accounts (http://news.livejournal.com/140511.html?thread=98346463#t98346463) without their knowledge or action to automatic payments. And before that, people being able to view and possibly edit other people's locked entries. And so on and so on.

The staff. Especially [livejournal.com profile] igrick, the head of LJ Russia, who's mocked users behind their backs, and called comments complaining about the new look "spam". And other members of staff haven't been shining examples of professionalism either. (Reference: near the top of this page. (http://factionary.livejournal.com/2116.html)) This isn't an "I'm mad at you so I'm leaving" thing; I figure that if that's the way the staff feels they're not going to have customer service high on their list of priorities.

Meanwhile, from what I've seen from and seen said about the staff at DW, they seem to have their heads out of their asses. They have, for example, rented extra server space to handle all the new journals there, and adjusted their code to make those servers less strained, and kept their users in the know about what was going on (and I can't remember the last time LJ really did that).

Livejournal's secrecy. They're keeping their Russian-speaking users informed about what they're planning, and just springing stuff on the English-speakers and laughing off their complaints. And then saying "oh, we're taking your opinions into account" and nothing more concrete, and then not seeming to do even that. That makes it seem like they're focusing on gaining and maintaining a Russian-speaking userbase, and English-speakers will have to walk ten miles through snow uphill both ways to have any kind of input or influence.

Aesthetics. Even right now before LJ changes any further, I just like the way DW looks a lot better than these new comment pages. And I know a lot of other people have gotten headaches and stuff from having to use LJ's new look. DW has the look of the old LJ, but kinder on the eyes (slightly lower contrast and a couple other things). And for people who want it to look exactly like the old LJ, there's a plugin for that.

DW has cool stuff. The people who run DW give it new features too, but instead of ugly comment pages that everyone vocally doesn't want, they're useful little things along the lines of tag lists that can be sorted under headers, and text cuts that can be expanded without having to leave the page you're on.

That's all I can think of right now, since it's like ten minutes to bedtime, but there are my probably-more-than-two cents. I'll stay here if Eway does, because Eway is the Nic Cage to my Vriska, but I would one thousand percent prefer that we up sticks to DW.

As for community-based vs journal-based, I personally don't mind either way! Community-based sounds like a good idea based on yours and George-mun's points.

[identity profile] cautious-knight.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
Adding to DW staff: They communicate with their userbase. A lot, and well. And listen to complaints, and answer questions.

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[identity profile] jivitadana.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks so much for letting us discuss this.

I'll go wherever the game goes, and I'm okay with whatever format we go with, either journal-based or comm-based. The only other game I've been in was journal-based, so I'm used to that format and prefer it, but I don't mind comm-based either if it's easier for you guys during mirror events and the like. I can see the upside to it.

Following you guys forever. Or as long as I can, anyway. ♥

If I think of anything else, then I'll let you know. ^-^ (And fff, if I can post this in the right place. XD)

[identity profile] quinniepuff.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm fine with whatever you guys decide, long run DW might be better ...but then with LJ who knows what could happen :P

[identity profile] notamisfit.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
So first of all, I go where the game goes/stay where the game goes.

On a more concrete basis, however: I'd prefer to move. I'll say that upfront and yes it probably has something to do with my other games are moving and one site is easier than two. But honestly, on what I've read, I think it's clear LJ will do what it wants and hang anyone who isn't happy.

Of the options listed, my first choice would be move and switch to comm-based. This would make life easier for the mods, and for anyone who might not want to import everything (I haven't tried that yet so I don't know how that works/how easy it is) - all they'd really need to bring over is app and other things like CR charts, HMDs which will vary by person. It would also, as you say, make things a lot cleaner when it comes to mirror events because you could just post straight-up with the mirror rather than having to post with the normal and then switch to mirror in comments.

Admittedly, that notifs for threads in posts that aren't yours don't go to your inbox automatically is a hassle but you still get email notifs so you could link to them that way (or for paid accounts, you can track certain comment threads) and if we go comm-based (and make sure tags are used maybe), it'd be easier to track threads down anyway.

Anyway, tl;dr: My first choice is move and go comm-based, followed by move/journal-based and stay/comm-based (which are about equal in my mind).

ETA: On the paid account front, most of mine run out in February and I've already wasting time on an account for another game that has already moved but I don't think that should be a dealbreaker (though I imagine it might be more so to anyone who buys in blocks bigger than 2-months as I do).
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[identity profile] akapeanut.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
It takes about five minutes to import posts so that part of it isn't much of a hassle! Just fyi

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[identity profile] cautious-knight.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 11:01 am (UTC)(link)
I guess it was to be expected, but both me and Ket are voting for DW since we cannot use LJ.

No preference towards journal or community.

[identity profile] demiurgos-girl.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I think you guys know that I'll follow Eway whether it stays or moves!

Secondly, I'm more inclined to move to DW. Looking over that link in the OP, a lot of the changes we'd undergo make the short term harder, but the long term easier. And between the two, I'd pick making the long term easier. (LJ does seem to have long term plans of its own, that are... not endearing. Best get out sooner than later.) Also, moving is a good opportunity to spice up the RP. It seems like DW makes it easier to write while LJ makes it easier to design- and I'd rather write.

Not to mention, from what I'm hearing a lot of people are having trouble even accessing LJ, so we'll probably lose players either way. Admittedly, I think we'd lose a bit more from moving. But if you're talking about saving the game and not the playerbase then DW is the better choice. Not much point having a playerbase if your game is unattractive anyway, right? (I know its a blurry, taboo distinction, but its there.)

Also, it kinda hurts when you realize that you're paying people who treat their users so badly. It's like paying Tron to be racist (err, userist?), haha. If the game doesn't move, I'm switching back to an unpaid account and ditching all my icons, because there's no way I'm giving those people my money. It's a disgustingly small amount of money, but it's mine and they can't have it. (And besides, the edit button is free now yaaay!!!) That's not a emotional thing at all: I don't support jerks. And I can help with the paid drive, but only for like one random person. :O

My only real problem against moving is that some people will have games that stay on LJ. I personally only have Eway, but I can imagine that having to play in both LJ and DW will be a pain. Of all the players, I think those people are the ones we're most likely to lose.

As for journal-vs-community, EDIT: I just realized that comm based games give you comment tags... Which I really want. JUST SAYING. hahaha At the end of the day, I support whatever makes it easier for the mods.

tl;dr It seems like what's best for the game in the long run is moving to DW, even though we'd lose slightly more people in the beginning. DW is a growing market full of people itching to RP, we should totally exploit that. And between journal or comm-based, I pick "mod-based".

PS Life continues to be busy for me, so if we do move, I may be delayed in setting up a new journal. That might be a nice time to canon update Elaine or somthing, idk. But whatever happenes, I'll probably join DW a bit late.
Edited 2012-01-05 14:54 (UTC)

EXODUS: MOVEMENT OF JAH PEOPLE

[identity profile] dashboardlite.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Hoo boy, this is something I've spent the last three days talking about with one of my friends who works in user interface and site design.

I've spent so much time ranting about everything that yes, all my previous comments in ljnews have been rather emotionally-charged, but now I'm just sick and tired of livejournal as a whole. They've effectively crushed a lot of their userbase with this change, and since there's really nothing we can do about it and I'm sick and tired of having [livejournal.com profile] igrick be an absolute dick to all of us, I'm advocating a move to Dreamwidth.

I've already let Dean's icons run out (which is HORRIBLE AND AWFUL AND SAD but I'm dealing), and admittedly, one of my main concerns is the paid account spiel: I have one for [livejournal.com profile] libraritology, [livejournal.com profile] thestormcomes, and Dean's [livejournal.com profile] respectedman. They have a lot of time left, and I hate to lose those icons because I am a greedy whore I like using them. :(

I'm happy to see that there's a paid-user-drive-thingy going on, so at least that's encouraging for a move.

If we do move, I'd sort of prefer for things to remain journal-based, just because it's what I'm used to and it's what I know and it took me forever to learn in the first place because Alex is slow slow slowerson. Still, if we have to resort to community-based just to get a playerbase back (depending on how many people we may or may not lose), I can deal.

I'm moving with the game, no matter what it does.

Short-term, moving is going to be a bitch and a half, and I'm already anticipating it with a queasy stomach because I'm intimidated by moving to a different place, but in the long-term it's going to be a lot better for the game. I honestly wish that we didn't have to resort to this because BLARGH CHANGE, but since we have no other choice, the logical thing would be to move.

It sucks like a Hoover, but I feel like it's the best option.

In other news I'm going to try and preemptively import my journals and comments to the DW accounts I've made (JUST IN CASE), so if there's anyone who has done this already and can tell me how, I would be much obliged. ♥
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[identity profile] jivitadana.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I tried importing already, and it just takes some time, but it looks good so far. The only problem I have is that none of the icons came through because I have a free account at DW and not enough room for all 200+ icons I have. XD

http://www.dreamwidth.org/support/faqbrowse?faqid=86

That should work! ^-^ Give it a try.

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[identity profile] boomerangbend.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I've pretty much spent the 16th to the 22nd or so poking around Dreamwidth and Livejournal and reading every thread I can get my hands on. I'm still leaning on getting out of here. I've thankfully cooled down quite a bit, although I still get cross-eyed when I look at Livejournal for too long. That's most likely just a photo-sensitivity problem by now. A few weeks earlier and I'd attribute it to a certain Russian LJ staff member. Yeah, I went through those wonderful threads too. I don't think it's a lost in translation thing at all, which is just... Okay, moving on.

As for the options, I'm leaning on 3 and 4. If we have to stay, though, I'd have to pick option 2 in hopes that we'd draw the few people who are still on LJ. I know more people prefer community based games for some reason, but I'm fine with either. My first LJ rp was a community based game, but I don't see a significant difference between the two. I'll deal with LJ's wackiness if you guys decide not to move. I love you guys too much for that. I'll force myself through the muck.

However, I do have to chime in with what Lo said. LJ's recent changes have really made it difficult for me to tag anything. Like I said, though, I'll go with whatever you guys decide on doing in the end.

Oh, and about the icon problem: while many of my accounts have a lot of time left here, I don't care what happens to them. If you want my actual opinion, though, I've had it with Livejournal. I don't want to give them any of my money anymore, so the qualms people have about moving and losing money don't affect me at all. I'd much rather give Dreamwidth my money. Just saying. And, either way, Sokka's icons end around...March or so, so I've got plenty of time.

Wow, okay, that comes off really coherent. Okay, translation: I'm fine with whatever you guys do. I just prefer 3 or 4 the most.
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[identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, another comment I thought of last night at like EIGHT AM WHILE TRYING TO SLEEP.

ahem.

If we do move and switch to community based, can we like.. make it a Thing to NOT delete our LJ-versions, even if we import everything? I mean, I don't.. really see why we would, but just in case? I, and everyone else, I'm pretty sure, would not want all our links to tracked threads to be broken, sob.

[identity profile] akapeanut.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
^this

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[identity profile] paper-knight.livejournal.com 2012-01-06 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
My reasons for staying here are mostly like. Archiving related. And that has been addressed above.

And learning-a-new-website related, which is sort of a bigger hiccup (you guys I am really really dumb about some of these things, I still haven't really learned how to fancy up a livejournal), but...I'd get around it. I'm just lazy and tech nervous, I'll have fun once I get started.

Overall I do think it would be the better thing for everyone, and also for the game--because if rpers are moving away from lj en masse, that means less new applicants for eway, and that's kind of an important thing, isn't it?

So. I guess Dreamwidth.

[identity profile] hamburellakind.livejournal.com 2012-01-06 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
DW is very very similar to LJ, so I wouldn't worry too much about adjustment in terms of using the site, but customizing (layouts and crap) might be annoyingly different-- then again, we might go community-based and then it's not such a big deal anyway.

So I wouldn't worry too much about that <3

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[identity profile] misspouncellor.livejournal.com 2012-01-06 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I vote for option 3. It'd be a while before I could afford to get paid time, but 15 and no ads is better than 15 with ads or even 6 and no ads.

Either way, I'm liking the comm-based game plan. We wouldn't have to keep adding and removing each others' journals. They're either part of the community or they're not, and if they post, everybody will see right away, not just the people who happened to be around when they posted the 'please add me!' intros.

[identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com 2012-01-07 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
My vote is for 4. I prefer journal-based games in general, I've been having enough issue with LJ lately that I'm... really not sure I can play on this site anymore :\

[identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com 2012-01-07 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
3 is also totally okay with me, too, though!

[identity profile] spirit-cobra.livejournal.com 2012-01-07 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'hm really lazy and would just rather stick with LJ. My opinion is mostly invalid, I suppose, since I don't use many of the features and stuff for things, and I don't have a paid account. So that's my 2 cents.

[identity profile] urnewkingbitch.livejournal.com 2012-01-07 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
3 or 4 are good for me! <3

[identity profile] born-from-mist.livejournal.com 2012-01-07 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
Despite LJ being a total failure with doing what they're gonna do I kinda wanna stick around. They might get better, they might not but../shrug. Getting everything set up again is a complete pain in the ass as I'm not familiar with Dreamwidth or any of that stuff but if the game moves I'll probably follow it regardless.

I looked at the comparison between the two and I'm kinda on the fence with this one. :\

[identity profile] boomerangbend.livejournal.com 2012-01-07 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
Well, if it helps your decision, importing is the easiest thing ever. Lookit me! (http://dw-news.dreamwidth.org/31905.html) I thought it'd be a pain in the ass too, but it's actually really simple.

[identity profile] paper-knight.livejournal.com 2012-01-07 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh here's an additional thought.
I have never really played in a community-based game, but I think I'd rather have eway stay journal-based. Even if it means more work for me learning DW as Kelsey suggested, I really like having this easy, semi-permanent archive of things I've done over on Mark's personal journal. It's also nice when I need to do a quick fact-check on some other character. Reviewing old conversations. Stuff.
I keep meaning to make a log post--I do keep a list in a Word file--but even if I had one, I would only have time to update it every now and then, and I think other players are probably the same.

Tl;dr for easier archiving I'd like things to stay journal based please. Option 4. Or option 1, if we stay. I'd be cool with that too.
Edited 2012-01-07 14:30 (UTC)

[identity profile] dashboardlite.livejournal.com 2012-01-07 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
^THIS^

I have to agree with Rachel on this one - I'd much rather keep the journal-based, just because it's really nice having something to reference, and having a pseudo-archive thing to go back to with all my convenient tags.

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