11th Bad Idea [Accidental Joint Video]

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[ The video comes to life with a dull thud as Isaac's communicator falls off the couch and onto the floor. He doesn't sound or look all too bothered by it, if it weren't for the quick glance, it'd look like he doesn't even notice.

The video's sideways but it shows both Allison and Isaac, she's on the floor with her back against the couch in question, while he is draped across it, seeming to take up far too much room. His attention is back on Allison, and he's looking a bet vehement. ]

No way, Black Widow has all the same powers as Batman, less money, and still manages to kick more ass. Then there's the whole [ Airquotes ] men are supposed to be stronger than women thing.

[ Allison turns another page in the comic she's reading, totally unaware of the device having fallen, or it even being on. As far as she knows, she's just talking to her boyfriend, while also trying to educate herself on comics.

Well, "talking". They're mostly just arguing at this point. ]

Yeah, but she also had training, almost to a brainwashed level, for a government agency. Batman had to get all that done himself, without the help of the government hiding him. Money doesn't count when you have a country's taxes paying for everything.

[ But then she leans her head back, looking up at him with a smile. A content smile. A "that was cute you got brownie points for that one" kind of smile. Isaac may or may not get lost in her eyes for a second before leaning down to steal a chaste kiss. The fact that she's actually learned so much about this, well, it's endearing.

When he leans down to give her the kiss, she kisses him back. Light, easy. As far as she knows they're alone, after all, so what's the harm? ]

I'll give you the girls versus boys argument, though, but I'm not saying she's not really awesome. I'm just saying that in a fight, if given the time to research and prepare, Batman would totally win.

Batman has had training too! He's had lots of training -- I thought you said you watched the movies. And he has the money to get even more training. Money definitely counts, it totally cancels out her previous training and all the S.H.I.E.L.D. training. Besides Batman is a total crybaby, he gets upset over everything - Black Widow uses all the problems she's faced in her life as something to build off of. Batman's life isn't even that bad, but he acts like it couldn't get worse. Black Widow wouldn't need to research to kick Batman's ass.

You know what else? Black Widow has an interesting story. Batman? Not so much. Do you know how boring Batman actually is? Can you hand me my phone.

[ He leans back away from her and reaches an arm out to point at it, hoping she'll comply.

But when he leans back again, her smile drops and she huffs a little, mostly at herself.

She's not exactly a scholar, after all. ]

I meant that his training was self-driven. He wanted to be his ideal so he went out to learn everything he needed to do. He's a genius, yeah, but other than that he wasn't all that special. I have seen the movies, we watched them a couple of months ago. And money does not cancel out her previous and S.H.I.E.L.D. training!

[ She's not really upset, just kind of playing up her huff when she uses the comic to reach over her head and whack him. ]

Are you kidding me? He does not get upset over everything. Have you seen the movies? It also doesn't matter how bad his life is or how interesting his story is. What matters is the good he's doing. Trying to stop criminals and fight injustice, at the expense of his whole life.

He devoting himself to an ideal. You know, kind of like a code? [ She shoots a look over her shoulder at him, like she's asking him to argue that, as she reaches over to pick up the device and hand it to him over her shoulder, not even looking at it as she does so.

The feed moves with her as she moves the camera, pausing as it hangs over her shoulder. ]

Batman would so win.

[ And you have to agree to get your phone back.

Isaac tries to snatch it out of her hand, only to be denied a couple times before he gives up and makes a noise in the back of his throat that manages to sound offended... And then he's lunging off the couch to tackle her, knocking the device out of her hand and to the ground, where he snatches it up... Only to see that it's been recording from where he's perched on her. Not very comfortable, but that's what she gets for cheating! ]

Great... [ And with that, it clicks off. ]

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[oversight]

[ As it stands, Blake doesn't feel like weighing in on this argument. He's feeling a bit like shit after losing someone close to him, and being railroaded at every turn by Wonderland has been wearing him thin. But strangely enough, he's compelled. Clearing his throat, John responds to the message with a gesture toward the camera. ]

'Preciate the thought goin' into this, but you're missin' the third, more likely outcome, where they team up because they're both workin' for the same side.

The Batman wouldn't have any reason to fight Black Widow under normal circumstances.

[ Just call him Buzz Killington. ]

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[ Oh, look, it's Lamey McLamepants. ]

Maybe but Batman's fought plenty of superheroes before. Plenty of 'em have been brainwashed for evil or vice versa. [ Get with the picture. ]

What if Batman was brainwashed for evil? Natasha could definitely kick his ass.

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And if Natasha was brainwashed for evil, Batman could take her down too. And you just had me read a whole plotline where Black Widow fought other heroes!

[ blowing holes in your argument bro. sorry. ]

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Except the part where he couldn't. Batman is such a disappointing superhero. Dude, one of his biggest enemies is a freakin' clown.

[ Your argument is irrelevant, Batman gets owned by a clown on a daily basis. ]

And a dude that looks like a penguin.

[driven]

Okay, no. Have you even read anything with the joker in it? He's the embodiment of chaos. Batman's villians are the creepiest by far.

[ your argument is invalid, joker is scary as shit. ]

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[ FLAT STARE. ] He's got nothing on like half of the Hydra villains, or any of Spider-Man's villains, which, she's met a few by the way.

[ Never did he ever think he'd be arguing with his girlfriend over comics.... ] Next you're gonna say that Thor couldn't take Superman.

[oversight]

[ So much of this face while he listens to these two. Don't they have better things to do with their time?

On the bright side, this isn't destructive, so how can he complain? He'd rather them indulge in this sort of thing than get up to trouble.

(Seriously, though, in a fight between Thor and Superman? Superman's definitely coming out on top.) ]

[driven]

[ thank you ]

[driven]

You're kidding me right? The Green Goblin? You think he's scarier than the Joker?

[ isaac, she doesn't agree with you in any way at all. nope. ]

Superman would kick his butt.

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I'd punch the Joker in the face any day over the Green Goblin.

[ He tilts his head to the side before scoffing. ]

Oh, right, because it'd be sooo hard for Thor to find some stupid kryptonite.

[driven]

Uh-huh. Sure.

[ she doesn't believe you. she's actually rolling her eyes. ]

Okay, whatever. I don't really care about Superman one way or another, even though he'd definitely win.

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[ Look at that affronted look he's giving her. ]

I would. You don't think I would?

[ Dropping superman like he's hot because EXCUSE HIM YOU JUST INSULTED HIM. ]

[driven]

[ look at those raised eyebrows she's giving him right back. ]

Nope. I don't.

[ SHE'S CALLING YOUR BLUFF BROSKI ]

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[ Oh, look, he's just gonna continue looking thoroughly offended. ]

Fine, I'd let them kidnap you then I'd punch 'em.

[ u g h so offended. ]

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[driven]

This is more just hypothetically speaking than anything.

[ have an apologetic smile, almost like she was caught doing something she wasn't supposed to. which, well, she was caught unintentionally. ]

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[oversight]

Yeah, figured as much. But even hypothetically speakin', can't recall any kinda evidence that'd suggest it wouldn't end that way, anyway.

[ I mean, come on, there's a bat accessory for everything, right up to and including shark repellent. Putting a kibosh on something like brainwashing isn't outside the realm of possibility for a guy like him. ]

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[driven]

Evidence and hypothetical situation don't really have to line up, you know.

[ that's the whole point, blake. geez. ]

What do you think the evidence suggests?

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[oversight]

[ Hey, he's very officially a stick in the mud 2/3 of the time, so how is this a surprise? ]

Suggests that things might start out rocky, but they'd smooth out eventually. Pretty sure I made that clear.

But... hypothetically, if she's a good shot and he doesn't use a gun— [ And then a shake of his head. ] No, sorry. Still not buyin' into it.

Team up.

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[driven]

[ allie can deal with sticks in the mud. have you met her dad? ]

I'm pretty sure he could find a way to avoid the bullet. That's kind of how he operates regularly.

[ she sighs, but it's with an exasperated smile. ]

That's not the point.

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[oversight]

[ Actually, he has. And they got along, so... take that how you will. ]

So what is the point?

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[driven]

[ she's not even surprised. ]

That if - taking out the evidence suggesting they wouldn't - they had to fight against each other, who do you think would win?

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[oversight]

[ Honestly, he doesn't like thinking about this sort of thing, because at the end of the day, it only makes him that much more paranoid about not being the right choice for the role of vigilante crime fighter.

He frowns a little, eyebrows drawing together. ]

Well, I guess— [ Huff. ] Guess I'd go with Black Widow, then. [ Because he'd rather it be him than her, to be perfectly honest, and if he's got to choose someone to be in the wrong, then it should be him, right?

This is weird. He feels weird having this conversation. Is that obvious at this point? Probably not. But he's feeling it. ]

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[driven]

[ she picks up on the fact he's feeling uncomfortable, and seems a little confused by it. and of course, when she says a little, she means a lot. ]

And why's that?

[ she's not letting you off that easily.

besides, gdi blake. you had one job. agree with her!!! ]

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[oversight]

Ladies first?

[ He winces and realizes it's not any good answer, but he can't exactly give a good answer right now, can he? And even if he did, no one's about to believe a guy can be altruistic about these types of things. ]

Guess some part of me thinks that the guns'd make a diff'rence. I mean, bullet dodgin's an art the Batman's got down, but Black Window's real ninja. Plus, the Batman's got a lotta... issues.

[ It's not a lie. Not even if we're talking about Bruce. ]

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[driven]

[ no. wrong answer. try again. ]

Just because she's a woman doesn't mean that she'll automatically win or lose. She has the same chance as any male.

[ EQUALITYYYY someone's been reading too much lately. ]

If guns were the make-or-break part of it, don't you think Batman wouldn't still be around? [ and then a frown. for a different reason entirely. ] Having issues doesn't make you useless.